GAClone

i think fisher has a pretty consistent shot (but my frd thinks otherwise)

any idea if this is a good trade for raps?

trade ford + rasho
for
steve blake + joel pryzbilla (trailblazers)

is that an upgrade @ centre?


some say that they should trade Ford for Maggette, but i think that Maggette is only good with a dominant inside force, and neither Bosh nor Bargnani is that inside force, so trading for Maggette will only make the team more jump shooting oriented...and i keep saying trade Ford cuz im more of a Calderon fan =)

Pooner

原帖由 GAClone 於 2008-5-11 22:32 發表
i think fisher has a pretty consistent shot (but my frd thinks otherwise)

any idea if this is a good trade for raps?

trade ford + rasho
for
steve blake + joel pryzbilla (trailblazers)

is that an up ...

no one is going to take Ford with his bad back history... unless they're super desperate for a PG, or looking for a PG that would push the ball and up the tempo... other than the Mavs... i don't really see another... maybe Denver's style would fit too... or even Indiana... after O'Brien outright stated that the Pacers can no longer depend on Tinsley... too bad Isiah is no longer running the Knicks... otherwise he would get suckered in... lol...

Portland would not be that stupid to give up Blake and Pryzbilla... they're both young and talented... Pryzbilla will be key backup to Oden when he's off the floor...

GAClone

haha i guess you're right. if ONLY isiah is still around. but then w/ D'Antoni onboard now, they might want Ford to run the uptempo offense.

is Pryzbilla THAT good? cuz i mean Rasho's an expiring, and in a year or 2, Blazers'll need to have cap room to resign Roy and Aldridge, so i think it's not EXACTLY a talent for talent trade. more of a salary dump off, since he's one of the higher paid players on the roster that has trading value. and does Pryzbilla consider himself starter material? kinda like Calderon does in TO. but it's true that they might not be willing to part ways w/ Blake.

mibu

talking about sending ford to nyk, i actually kinda like eddy curry.  i think he has a lot of skill just bad off court history
if he would go to TO and get them some inside presence in a trade for ford, i think it would be not bad

back to pooner....the lakers bench is not weak at all, look at fisher, vujajic and farmar.  all very decent guys...except one problem...a very big, weak problem = luke walton

pryzbilla is kinda like a younger version of rasho...they even look alike for crying out loud...

another option is to trade rasho and ford to seattle....for collison and the white pg they have (forgot his name).
too bad they cant trade away barney...he sucks big time...i dont see him even being close to a star or a dirk gonna-be anytime soon

[ 本帖最後由 mibu 於 2008-5-12 23:06 編輯 ]

Pooner

原帖由 GAClone 於 2008-5-12 22:18 發表
haha i guess you're right. if ONLY isiah is still around. but then w/ D'Antoni onboard now, they might want Ford to run the uptempo offense.

is Pryzbilla THAT good? cuz i mean Rasho's an expiring, an ...

he's a proven shot blocker... he's tall and lengthy... a good thing in the West... so i can't see the Blazers willing to down grade to Rasho... is he a restricted FA, or unrestrcited FA?  the only way i see the Blazers parting ways with him is via free agency...

Ford can run... i don't question that... but for D'Antoni's system to work... he needs an unselfish PG... someone like Paul, Calderon and D-Will comes to mind... oops... they won't be available in the next little while... let's revisit their availability in a decade... haha

Pooner

原帖由 mibu 於 2008-5-12 23:02 發表
talking about sending ford to nyk, i actually kinda like eddy curry.  i think he has a lot of skill just bad off court history
if he would go to TO and get them some inside presence in a trade for for ...

i highly disagree with your comments...
1. Eddy Curry sucks... the eddy curry line... lol
2. the weakness is not Luke Walton... but vujajic and farmar... they can shoot... but they fight for the ball to shoot... lol... trying to impress Phil for more playing time...
3. look alike doesn't mean nothing... Korver looks like Ashton... is he banging Demi Moore?? (jk... dunno where that came from... lol)

i still can't see anyone desperate enough to take Ford at the moment... i mean he's short and can't guard anybody... plus his bad back and stuff... and since Seattle is relocating (painful)... new management would not want any salary lock for sure...

GAClone

原帖由 mibu 於 2008-5-12 23:02 發表
talking about sending ford to nyk, i actually kinda like eddy curry.  i think he has a lot of skill just bad off court history
if he would go to TO and get them some inside presence in a trade for for ...

i think Eddy Curry is just a better version of Kwame Brown. A little more proven, but never reached his full potential. Curry IS the type of big body the Raptors desparately need, but he's a MAJOR liability if the raps are gonna try and play run and gun. Besides, if I'm not mistaken, doesn't he have a heart problem? Either or, I would say Curry is a poison to most teams in the league, and that's not even throwing in his contract yet.

When you think of the Lakers, Luke Walton wouldn't exactly be considered the problem. Sure, he's not a stud, but he has good IQ and is a decent passer in the triangle O. Where Vujajic and Farmer struggle I think are they tend to shoot too much. While they are both good shooters, Vujajic should be more Korver like and have a better idea when to shoot and when to pass; whereas Farmer should be more of a slasher, instead of constantly settling for outside shots.

The Seattle white pg you are talking about I would assume is Luke Ridnour. I think the raps should try and include another player on top of Ford and Rasho to see if they can get Wilcox as well. Then I think that would be a fair trade. Just depends on who you include. And to be honest, I think the Raps shouldn't give up on Bargnani yet. I heard they have a full summer of training scheduled for him already, maybe after this intense summer, if he STILL doesn't develop, THEN we consider him a bust. I think he was just going throw a sophomore slump in his 2nd season.

Pooner

man if D'Antoni signed with the Bulls... i bet all the Bulls starters will be drafted in the first 7 rounds.. haha...

Pooner

原帖由 GAClone 於 2008-5-13 08:48 發表



i think Eddy Curry is just a better version of Kwame Brown. A little more proven, but never reached his full potential. Curry IS the type of big body the Raptors desparately need, but he's a MAJOR  ...

i like that line... Eddy Curry is the better version of Kwame... haha...
The Raps don't need Eddy Curry... he can't guard no body... and he would only clog up the lane for Bosh to do his things...

you want wilcox as well... now u're being greedy!!!

mibu

of course i'm not saying raps could get any better with curry.
i just like him because from watching him play in the earlier seasons when he was playing more minutes, he's quite productive and has good inside skill

but of course with his bad history he's not a person that any team would want on their roster right now

as for walton, i'm still sticking with walton as the weak spot.  he has good bball iq, i can see that...but how many times have we seen him get stuffed on a breakaway basket or in the paint layup?  

yea ridnour is who i was talking about, but nobody wants tj ford anyway because nobody really wants a selfish pg..

chris bosh, as good as he is, how come i dont see him being a star of duncan, shaq calibre?  maybe his small size?  he's good, but he doesnt have what it takes to become a superstar...just doesnt have that 'smell'