mcjohnjohn

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-12 15:19 發表
Why there are troublesome people who like to make things more complicated, and even worse, turn nothing to a problem, and enlarge a small problem to a big one?

我地真係心有靈犀!
我心裡都有呢一個相同既問題, 不過只係唔好意思同大家講law.

kisstherain

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-12 00:05 發表

You better watch out for your own words. Or someone will come up and whine, say you're now stereotyping people who stereotype are all lazy people.

咪 whine 到夠囉。

daimo

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2009-1-12 00:32 發表


我地真係心有靈犀!
我心裡都有呢一個相同既問題, 不過只係唔好意思同大家講law.

我笑咗.

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 daimo 於 2009-1-12 15:41 發表


我笑咗.

yeah, 我終於成功create到一個爛gag 了!

Ultraman

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2009-1-11 23:29 發表

Ultraman兄, 可否詳細解釋一下小弟o係邊一個層面有stereotype?

You said: "睇投票既數據, 就知道LYK既voter遇到差既基督徒既機會係大過遇著好既基督徒!"
To someone's pov, how do you know all "LYK既voter遇到差既基督徒既機會係大過遇著好既基督徒"? One of the other chances is, some LYK might 遇到好既基督徒, but just want to pump up the voting result? And lots more possibilities. So you're stereotyping there is only one possibility.

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-12 17:20 發表
You said: "睇投票既數據, 就知道LYK既voter遇到差既基督徒既機會係大過遇著好既基督徒!"
To someone's pov, how do you know all "LYK既voter遇到差既基督徒既機會係大過遇著好既基督徒"? One of the other chances is, some LYK might 遇到好既基督徒, but just want to pump up the voting result? And lots more possibilities. So you're stereotyping there is only one possibility.

死啦~ 今次我又唔覺得自己有問題woh.
雖然你講既野好似好有道理, 真係好似好有道理咁.
但有時道理同歪理只係一線之差, LYK既眼睛係雪亮既, 一睇就知一切都係我錯! 係我stereotyping, 請各位怪我一個好了, 因為我係基督徒之中既敗類呢~

小弟只係一廂情願咁覺得d 人投基督徒有xx問題既時候, 應該係自己親身體會過. 真係完全冇諗過有人會為左pump up voting result 而投票的. 更加冇諗過會有人係為左專登中傷基督徒而投票的.

最後, 如果真係有人惡意投票, 小弟唔介意比佢地打埋另一邊面. (嘻嘻, 比知佢地打唔到我先至咁講架乍~)

Austin

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-11 23:00 發表

This is kind of silly and childish argument.
For example, I say: "usually human have two eyes and one nose." And you say I'm stereotyping, cuz there are babies only have one eye and no  nose in born. ...

It seems like you don't understand the different between facts and opinion.

Let me make it easy for you then.

A person now posted these messages:
1) Blonde are stupid
2) Most blonde are stupid
3) 8 stupid things that blonde are doing
4) People who don't think blondes are stupid just not willing to face the truth

Is this person stereotyping? you decide.

Austin

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-12 00:19 發表
My knowledge and understanding of the meaning of the use of some adjectives are as below:

- almost all
example: There are 10 apples on my table, 9 in red, and 1 in green.
I would say "Almost all the  ...

example: There are 10 apples on my table, 9 in red, and 1 in green.
I would say "Almost all the apples on my table are in red".
Question: Am I stereotyping?
Answer: No, you are not stereotyping because it is a fact.  You can count what's on the YOUR table

example: There are 10 apples on my table, 6 in red, and 4 in green.
I would say "Most apples on my table are in red".
Question: Am I stereotyping?
Answer: No, you are not stereotyping because it is a fact.  You can count what's on the YOUR table

And my example: There are 10 apples on your table, 9 are red and 4 are green
You would say "Most apples on people's table are red"
Question: Are you stereotyping?
Answer: Yes! Because you don't know what's on other people's table.  You are generalizing all tables are exactly like yours.

Another example: There is a box of red and green apples, you see on top they are mostly red
You would say "Most apples in this box are red"
Question: Are you stereotyping?
Answer: Yes! You're generalizing based on what you can see, and not based on the actual count. The apples you can't see at the bottom could be all green.

chunsh

原帖由 Austin 於 2009-1-12 04:36 發表
1) Blonde are stupid
2) Most blonde are stupid
3) 8 stupid things that blonde are doing
4) People who don't think blondes are stupid just not willing to face the truth

in matter of speaking, I will use your example, and please 唔好又有一個走出來話唔知我講mud
no one here said "most blonde are stupid", but we, at least I said, every sterotype must not come from no where. I have read so many debate/discussion/fire in other forum between non-believers and believers. Most arguments in forum  or in real-life show that the bad one we met have the bad characteristics from those 8.

Austin

原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-12 09:55 發表


in matter of speaking, I will use your example, and please 唔好又有一個走出來話唔知我講mud
no one here said "most blonde are stupid", but we, at least I said, every sterotype must not come from no w ...

So you agree it's stereotyping, good for you.

Lets keep using the "blondes are stupid" example.  Relating what you said, so the blondes are stupid stereotype must not come from no where.  Everywhere this person goes he sees "dumb blondes" and hear dumb blonde jokes.  So it must be true that blondes are dumb (again, not my opinion but only as example).