peter236

But at the end, I think we stay here not  because solely because canada is a democracy country, but more because it is a country relatveily safe crimes activties, high quality education, stable econom ...
chobit 發表於 2009-6-8 06:33

For example, Lik will not go to democratic India where the slumdog millionaires live without stable supply of water or electricity.

mcjohnjohn

For example, Lik will not go to democratic India where the slumdog millionaires live without stable supply of water or electricity.
peter236 發表於 2009-6-9 16:37

好地地仲乜去印度? 你幾時出發去剛果平息當地既內戰?

peter236

好地地仲乜去印度? 你幾時出發去剛果平息當地既內戰?
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-6-9 01:51

Because India is democratic and he likes that.

mcjohnjohn

Because India is democratic and he likes that.
peter236 發表於 2009-6-9 18:58

democratic? 咁佢留o係加拿大就得啦! 仲乜要去到咁遠woh, 為左食咖哩咩.

somewhereintime

Talking about the "possible collapse of a nation"
did any of the young and intelligent LYK know that Mao
advocated  "The Hunan Republic" and breakaway from Republic Of China
in early 20?
Have anyone of you read the  10 volumes "Complete Works Of Mao" , published
in China 1960, Mao had his unique idea of  a Confederation state composed of
20+ independent states, similar to the EC now and how good it would be.  What
a great vision! I used to have the volumes back in HK.
Don't slash me for making it up, the book was popular in early 70's and Louis Cha(the founder of Ming Po) wrote a lot of articles to praise it.
Sigh, dozens of Hong Kong leaders chose not to talk about 6.4(not against)in light of their personal well being, it is pitiful.
Why they come up with the phobia that China will break-up, collapse, endangered, unstable  bankrupted when people in China has freedom and democracy?
The only thing for sure is that the CCP will lost their grip on the total control. That is the fear of the people in power, not necessary the general public. Chinese culture and history survive  5000 years without Communism,  even resistance against  Japanese invasion. The theories of Karl Marx is proven all wrong. CCP finally  learned an expensive lesson at our cost, and become a true  Capitalism economy maintaining the socialist title. Just tell me when did Communism really work in modern human history?
What did we learn? The economic miracle in China is the result of ditching Communism  and turning to Capitalism; if this is proven success, why not  giving democracy  a try? if the leaders want to leave a legacy in Chinese history, but not just for their family and colleagues's wealth and power.

peter236

democratic? 咁佢留o係加拿大就得啦! 仲乜要去到咁遠woh, 為左食咖哩咩.
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-6-9 05:04

The point here is that countries, like democratic India, where democracy was implemented before economic reforms, will remain relatively poor. Therefore, Lik will not go there or even talk about it.
Japan/South Korea/Taiwan, all experienced rapid economic growth before they got any type of democracy. All of those places have way higher per capita GDP than India. Even mainland China's per capita GDP is three times that of India.

rockypath

Talking about the "possible collapse of a nation"
did any of the young and intelligent LYK know that Mao
advocated  "The Hunan Republic" and breakaway from Republic Of China
in early 20?
Have anyone ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-6-9 05:40

I would suggest you to read up more but not just try to fulfill you hatred to CCP.

1)        Do you know China is the only historical great nation (empire) that was able to recover from its collapse and be reunited again (including its land) in the world history? None of other empires in the world was able to do the same. Instead, they disappear because none of them was able to recover after they were broken down to smaller states. Please look up some about the world history.

2)        When ever there was a political regime change in China history, there will be civil wars and massive lost of life. Do you know that?

3)        I don’t care whether it is CCP in power, I care about the life of Chinese people. Why would you suggest to overthrow CCP when China is prospering and Chinese people is having a better life? You are truely cold-hearted.

chobit

2nd that.  Improving the life quality even for just the basic needs is far more important at the moment.  What good is it, if people don't even have breads, or other basic medical supplies.  What good is democracy people live there actually suffer more..!

I would suggest you to read up more but not just try to fulfill you hatred to CCP.

1)        Do you know China is the only historical great nation (empire) that was able to recover from its collapse and b ...
rockypath 發表於 2009-6-9 10:26

Lik

2nd that.  Improving the life quality even for just the basic needs is far more important at the moment.  What good is it, if people don't even have breads, or other basic medical supplies.  What good is democracy people live there actually suffer more..!
chobit 發表於 2009-6-9 11:43

Citizen's basic needs are more important at the moment, eh?

Then why do we have the aerospace program, the Olympic extravagance, the local government extravagance, the 3 Gorges dam construction, the Shanghai (Pudong) magnetic levitation high speed train, etc.? Among these gigantic projects, only the 3 Gorges damn construction is more relevant to the citizens' basic needs. And even then, critics have long argued that thousands of smaller scale waterworks projects would not only be easier and cheaper to do, but also more beneficial to a larger number of people while simultaneously being less disruptive.

Another thing you have forgotten is how democracy can hold officials accountable to the citizens, and this in turn ensures fairness and justice is served.

Sigh... I'm just wasting my time yapping away to the deaf...

-Lik

peter236

Citizen's basic needs are more important at the moment, eh?

Then why do we have the aerospace program, the Olympic extravagance, the local government extravagance, the 3 Gorges dam construction, the ...
Lik 發表於 2009-6-9 13:30

You moron, the aerospace program has economic and scientific applications.
For example, China is capable of launching satellites for other countries, thereby making a lot of money.
China is setting up its own GPS system, therefore in the future, there is no need to rely on the US satellites.
Of course, weather satellites are used in forecasting the weather, environmental satellites are capable of finding new natural resources, and communications satellites are used in TV broadcasting.
All these can improve the living standards of the people now, not to mention the basic scientific research that can be carried out in the space station.
Even democratic India is claiming that they will send astronauts to the moon before China will.

The hosting of the Olympics has allowed China to gain valuable expertise in the logistics of hosting a large event. Japan did it in the 1960's and south Korea did it in the 1980's.