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本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-7-31 02:06 編輯
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無他,由於你同個D人都係物以類聚。定係,你阿爸阿媽真係無教…來而不往,非禮也…

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lo_pak 發表於 2012-7-30 22:19


You personal attack again. Please apologize. I didn't say if it is rude or not to take photos.

I am just stating a fact that, people and reporters all over the world always take pictures of celebrities in public places, without asking.

The issue here is not taking photos in public places or that it is rude or not. The issue here is that she is Chinese national herself, and she talks like she is not and implied that only Chinese people take photos. That was why her actions generated so much anger and she deserved it.

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本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2012-7-31 08:10 編輯

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Or put it this way, if these 38s can politely ask for permission before they take photos, I am certain that the Chan couple would be more than welcome to grant their request...

It is a common norm that "some" Chinese are extremely rude - these negative images are difficult to resolve if people are not behaving.

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始作俑者,一些冇禮貌的人,不懂專重其他人的私人時間,私人空間。

我相信有禮貌問一問,大家來個合照都應無問題,很多藝人都有這親民表現。但私自無理地侵犯他人空間,就真係“冇禮貌”喎!不停的拍拍拍,就真係滋擾喎!

強國不是時時話“強國內政,外人無權說三道四”,咁明顯,中國人不是外人就有權話中國人啦。佢話得啱,中國人真係冇乜禮貌,不過我近年就轉用咗更清楚既,“冇禮貌的強國人民” 囉。

“People and reporters all over the world always take pictures of celebrities in public places”???!錯既嘢唔係有啲人亂做,就變成啱。有啲人唔介意,唔代表每個被侵犯的都要不介意!

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徐濠縈罵中國人?明星隱私也要尊重

2012-07-31 11:05:50          來源:新浪
  
作為陳奕迅著名的幕後妻子徐濠縈,多年來早就告別演員身份,唯一獨立存在的明星價值是作為潮流教母存在,是公認會扮靚的icon(偶像)。昨天(7月30日)徐濠縈的一條微博引起軒然大波,也將其導入口水戰中。

徐濠縈被評論、轉發上百萬次的微博內容是這樣的:“沒有禮貌的中國人!人家一家三口在放假,普普通通吃午飯,你們不停在拍拍拍!問一聲也沒有!不懂尊重別人!”可以想像,刺激部分網友的關鍵詞就是“中國人”三個字。果然在壓力之下,徐濠縈刪掉該微博,重新解釋事情原委:“我自己也是中國人,我希望我們的人民素質更好,在任何地方給每個人私人空間,難得的假期卻被一個人狂拍我們,真的令人難受,所以才這麼說。”將兩條微博聯繫在一起看,基本可以認為徐濠縈第一條是在情緒激動的狀態下所發,難免讓部分人敏感誤會,而第二條既堅持了自己的立場,也不至於引起所謂的民族情緒。

關於民族情緒,是一個讓人撓頭的話題。有些人的確敏感,所以不聊也罷。但關於隱私,關於公共場合的一些禮貌禮儀還是可以說說的。如果拍攝徐濠縈吃飯的人,是狗仔,這件事又另當別論,因為作為陳醫生的著名妻子,徐濠縈天然地就具備了被消費的資本。香港八卦雜誌也不是第一次拍她如何出入高檔潮店一擲千金,接女兒放學,與圈內好友泡吧的各種情形。即便她內心不爽,多半還是熟視無睹,保持淡定。她自己也很清楚,時尚教母的地位就是靠一次次偷拍鞏固基石的。每張圖片都告訴全城的潮男潮女,這一雙鞋應該搭配哪一雙襪子。狗仔與明星,在公眾場合上的“矛盾”,目前看是無解的,是兩種職業本能的曖昧關係。

而這一次,舉起手機興奮地拍徐濠縈與家人吃飯的人是普通人。她與徐濠縈就還原到兩個普通人在公共場合的“矛盾”。說實話,換了誰都不願意自己的吃相無端端被陌生人收錄鏡頭之中。很多調查研究也顯示,作為動物的人類心理上是有安全距離的,如果一旦被侵入就會產生不同程度的緊張和焦慮感。很多女性在電梯中不自覺地用手環抱胸前,或者退縮到電梯一角,也是出於這種本能。所以,別人的空間距離感,吃喝拉撒的行為舉止,都在隱私範圍內,也是應該被尊重的。

相信徐濠縈第一條微博所說的“中國人”,本意就是她所說的,是對部分同胞的不滿,也不用想太多,就好比著名的主持人張紹剛,也是用“中國人”來評價職場節目選手的表現的。在發微博反拍對方之前,徐濠縈曾經提醒對方能否停拍,未果才不做任何修飾讓對方面容上線,雖然也有點不妥。但從這件事上,旁人需要被學習的就是,一些到公共場合,到國外應該注意的禮儀。 錢德勒(北京 娛評人)
"Veni, Vidi, Vici"
竹乃清,竹乃霸道

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“People and reporters all over the world always take pictures of celebrities in public places”???!錯既嘢唔係有啲人亂做,就變成啱。有啲人唔介意,唔代表每個被侵犯的都要不介意!
satil 發表於 2012-7-31 08:46

I didn't say it is right to do so. But I am just stating a fact that the paparazzi use powerful cameras and zoom in from long distance and take pictures of celebrities, even in private places.

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I didn't say it is right to do so. But I am just stating a fact that the paparazzi use powerful cam ...
peter236 發表於 2012-7-31 12:50


Please differentiate paparazzi and reporter.  Most reporters, especially entertainment news, would ask permission before taking photos.  If you ask the artists beforehand, you might even have photos with them together.

In consideration of protection of children in Canada, anyone (including media) has to get the consent from the parents/guardians  before taking photo of the child.  These 2 ladies have already violated the law.   

Be respect of other, and protect the child !

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By looking at the photo , can any one get any idea, which restaurant is it ?

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回復 17# king1000

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Would the "中國人" feel better if she had said "沒有禮貌的人" or 沒有禮貌的女人"??

IF not then I really don't see how "沒有禮貌的中國人" is such a problem?  She looks Chinese!

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